Xgau SezThese are questions submitted by readers, and answered by Robert Christgau. New ones will appear in batches every third Tuesday. To ask your own question, please use this form. January 20, 2021Going underground with movies and the Velvets, saying yes to sampling and no to Sidney Bechet and the War on Drugs, and putting "Brown Sugar" out to pasture. [Q] I was delighted to read in Going Into the City of your experience with Lenny Lipton screening underground films in New York in the '60s. (And thanks for mentioning the wonderful Kuchar brothers.) That period and milieu of filmmaking is inspiring to me and I'd be grateful for other memories you could share. I figure you must have had contact with Jonas Mekas, although if I'm right your time at the Voice came after he left. This brings me to ask also about the Velvet Underground in their early days, since they were so involved with underground film. Were you aware of them during their circa 1965 Angus MacLise phase, when they accompanied film screenings? Or perhaps the Exploding Plastic Inevitable shows where the Velvet Underground and Nico played alongside Warhol's films? -- Andy Ditzler, Atlanta [A]
Actually, I did rub shoulders occasionally with Mekas during my
1969-1971 freelance tour with the Voice, but only because he
knew me from the Popular Photography story my high school pal
Lipton assigned and I interviewed him for, as I should have. He was
the kingpin of that world and a genuinely remarkable man in many ways,
but not one who had much use for me once my pop proclivities were on
the table--he had no interest in "movies" at all. So while I was happy
to help Lenny run the Eventorium's Friday-night film series up on West
100th Street, and sat through many hours of experimental cinema from
Stan Brakhage (always interesting, occasionally great) to Gregory
Markopoulos (horrible and subsequently withdrawn from the so-called
New American Cinema canon and indeed circulation by the egomaniacal
Markopoulos himself) because underground movies did continue to
interest me, it was the New American Cinema's meager pop wing I wrote
about: in particular the Kuchars, who remained friendly with Lenny
after they all relocated to the Bay Area, and Stan VanDerBeek. My
first glimpse of the Velvet Underground was at a St. Marks Place club
called the Electric Circus, I believe under a Plastic Exploding
Inevitable rubric that featured the whip-dancing of Gerard Malanga,
who didn't impress me (at all). I think this preceded the release of
their first album, which took me a while anyway; it was
album three that
truly converted me. I witnessed their
legendary 1970 Max's run multiple
times. Lenny, who became a successful inventor specializing in
stereoscopic imaging, remains a friend although not a close one;
a
photo of me he took when I was 20 has appeared on this site. I
hope to see him the next time I get to Los Angeles, which I hope is
relatively soon. Knowing someone for 63 years is worth celebrating,
believe me.
[Q] What would you say to an older musician if they were hesitant about giving permission to a younger artist who wants to sample their music? -- Zach, Washington, D.C. [A]
That obviously depends on many things--how prominent the sample is,
whether or not the originator of the music likes the way it sounds in
its new context, and what your commercial ambitions and prospects are,
to name just three. At the very least you can offer to acknowledge the
sample in your packaging and agree to give him a small piece of
whatever profits ensue from the recording, which these days are of
course negligible much more often than not but you never know and the
originator probably knows even less. Plus you should argue that
sampling is a practice that has real artistic merit, recontextualizing
both new music and the musical history sampling explicitly
acknowledges. I miss it terribly myself--a big reason trap generally
fails to reach me. I wrote
a piece about sampling that's
never been collected, though I regret not shoehorning it into Is It
Still Good to Ya?
[Q] One musician you've never reviewed was New Orleans clarinetist Sidney Bechet. With his improvisational prowess and warm tone, I would think that an Armstrong fan like yourself would have recommended one or two of the albums in his immense discography. Is his singular style of music not in your wheelhouse and if not why? -- Sam, Ridgewood, New York [A]
I've asked myself this question for years, gave up on the four-CD RCA
comp The Victor Sessions: Master Takes 1932-43 a while ago but
still spun the single-disc Ken Burns Jazz once in a while. This
I've done three-four more times since your question arrived, but still
concluded that for someone of my musical education his soprano sax was
not distinctive enough sonically, improvisationally, or conceptually
to demand my attention. Not that I'm skeptical of his reputation; far
from it. And the music sounded pleasant enough. To double-check, I
made sure Bechet was also within earshot of household jazzbo Carola
Dibbell, who has intensified and helped articulate my response to
Coltrane, Davis, Rollins, and Reinhardt, among others. So this morning
before I sat down to write I asked whether she noticed the old jazz
I'd been playing and she told me she had. So why hadn't she mentioned
it, as she so often does? "I thought it sounded good, but not stop the
presses." So that's probably it for that.
[Q] I admit to bias but could you re-review War on Drugs and Kurt Vile and the Violators at some point? I remember one comment you made on Granduciel's songwriting and something about KV with CB but that's all. They are both incredible live bands and all-around great supporters of the scene here in Philly. -- All Best, Chris [A] Sorry, but I'm not going back there. Retrospectively, I figure the War on Drugs to be in a class with the 1975, an even more admired band I have no use for either. And Vile I've tried and tried with--as with Guided by Voices, that's the seminal example, he's a revered songsmith whose oeuvre has never made the slightest dent on my auriculum. Both may well be great live bands and scene stalwarts, but as a stalwart of that scene yourself you're more prejudiced than I am, because those songs have had a very different kind of chance to dent your auriculum. Enjoy if you like, more power to you--people like what they like, that's fundamental. Courtney Barnett obviously did, and must have helped in some way you're better equipped to suss out than I am:
As for the War on Drugs, here's my scholarly commentary in an interview I did with Dan Weiss at Spin to promote Going Into the City. I'm the first speaker:
[Q] I am curious, what is your typical interaction with music when you write about music? Do you play your writing object in the background, or keep the environment quiet but just pull out moments that will help with your writing, or even play something else in background? -- Minghan Yan, New York City [Q] I'm curious to know your thoughts on the Stones' "Sweet Black Angel," and if those thoughts have changed over the years. The irony of tracks like "Brown Sugar" is pretty obvious, but "Sweet Black Angel" in particular, with Jagger's enunciation and usage of the n-word, has always baffled me. Just wondering what your take on this is. -- Jeremy, Missouri [A]
Politically and every other way, I find "Sweet Black Angel" far more
attractive in retrospect than "Brown Sugar," which I decided should be
put out to pasture after I saw Bob Dylan cover it in 2003 and (less
problematically, I admit) the Stones themselves roll it out at a 2005
concert. Irony be damned, its representation of cross-racial
master-to-slave lust is far too realistic--too easy to interpret
one-dimensionally as an explicit and unembarrassed articulation of a
specific variety of lust. N-word or no n-word, "Sweet Black Angel"
can't be misprised that way even if you're not fully aware that this
"angel" is in fact a historical personage: the crucial Black feminist
radical and indeed Communist Angela Davis. As the song presents her,
this woman isn't in anybody's bed. She's in a court of law even if
you're not hip enough to know every detail--a star-level celebrity
whose picture is worth hanging on your wall whose freedom is in
jeopardy as a result of the peril her Black brothers still suffer.
The Genius transcription is a mite sloppy, but the Genius
commentary isn't: "one of the few overtly political Stones tunes."
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